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Gallifrey Girl wrote:You know that 'don't judge a book by its cover' etc etc? I totally initially judge books by their covers - it's what you have to go with (along with the title) when you're browsing at the book store for something new and unknown. That is a most excellent cover, and would make me pick it up to read the dust jacket. Congrats!
Reminds me of an episode of Phineas & Ferb -
Candace: (looking at books on a coffee table) Boring, trite, derivative, BORING.
Mom: Don't judge a book by its cover, Candace.
Candace: That's why books have covers. Why did you pick these books out at the library?
Mom: I thought they looked interesting.
Candace: Aaaaaaand....?
laddical- Posts : 1607
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HELL YEAH!!! Scaaaandaloooouuuusss.
Instant Monkeys- Posts : 1783
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This is wonderful. Congratulations!
Eris Rising- Posts : 1040
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Congratulations, RiverThames!
The Glen- Mod Squad
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Woo! Thanks, all. (Especially laddical for saving me from having to blatantly self-promote...)
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Congrats! The cover does look tasty. Yes, I am a Cape Slut, why do you ask?
year of the cat- Posts : 390
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That is just brilliant - congratulations, RiverThames!
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Congrats, RiverThames!
particle_person- Tech Support
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True Detective creator accused of plagiarism
Having read through it, it does look like he stole a lot of the ideas, but the actual phrases all seem to be snippets a few words long taken from many different page numbers in the book. Example:
Having read through it, it does look like he stole a lot of the ideas, but the actual phrases all seem to be snippets a few words long taken from many different page numbers in the book. Example:
So I would say yes, it's plagiarism, but it's not exactly at the level of putting a ferret treatise in your romance novel.COHLE: … we are things that labor under the illusion of having a ‘self’…each of us programmed with total assurance that we’re each somebody, when in fact everybody is nobody.
“And the worst possible thing we could know — worse than knowing of our descent from a mass of microorganisms — is that we are nobodies not somebodies, puppets not people.” (CATHR, p. 109)
“Everybody is nobody…” (CATHR, p. 199)
“…our captivity in the illusion of a self—even though ’there is no one’ to have this illusion…” (CATHR, p. 107)
“…the illusion of being a somebody among somebodies as well as for the substance we see, or think we see, in the world…” (CATHR, p. 114)
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As plagiarism goes, there's been worse. Nic Pizzolatto has referred to Ligotti in interviews, and let's be honest, if you have a character who tends to ruminate existentially on the nature of the universe, s/he is hardly the first to do so, and there's only so much vocabulary for variation on a theme.
(Then I went back and read the whole Cassie Edwards Ferret Plagiarism Scandal, because never not funny, man.)
(Then I went back and read the whole Cassie Edwards Ferret Plagiarism Scandal, because never not funny, man.)
Cynara- Posts : 421
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And here is another fantastic case. This plagiarist blames it on her writing group and a mysterious unnamed man who died in a car accident.
Rachel Ann Nunes vs. the plagiarist and her writing group
Rachel Ann Nunes vs. the plagiarist and her writing group
particle_person- Tech Support
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Let's see...anonymous reviewers and/or sockpuppets? Check. Someone dies tragically months ago and the whole thing was their idea? Check. Autistic/disabled/dying child to care for? Check. Plagiarist gets confronted and flies off the handle and threatens legal action? Check. Mysterious family members who have given their "approval"? Check.
All this needs now is the plagiarist begging their writing group for money to buy a laptop and this thing will have reached its apex.
All this needs now is the plagiarist begging their writing group for money to buy a laptop and this thing will have reached its apex.
maxell131313- Posts : 599
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HEE.The thing that solidifies everything is the verbal permission.
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I find the Pizzolato accusation rather bizarre. For one, I've never read Ligotti and don't watch True Detective, but have heard the "we all think we're somebody but we're all nobody" thing somewhere before - as Cynara noted, there are common themes in philosophy/introspection. But writers repackage the ideas of others all the time, and tv writers don't exactly have the option of footnotes. I wonder if Ligotti himself would have felt that it was inappropriate use of his ideas? This is someone else being upset on his behalf.
The indie book one, wow, clearly plagiarism and classic internet tangled web of lies to try to get out of it!
The indie book one, wow, clearly plagiarism and classic internet tangled web of lies to try to get out of it!
mandalaya- Posts : 184
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Wait, the plagiarist is actually sending emails claiming to be the niece of the woman she's accused of plagiarizing, and saying her aunt gave her permission to sell a copy pasta'd version of her published novel, because she (the niece) came up with the idea for the novel in the first place - even though the author is all like, "yeah no because my niece was NINE when I published that book."
Then an anonymous 'friend' of the plagiarist starts sending abusive emails claiming to be the niece of a publishing exec (and the publishing exec also responds with 'hella no I know my own nieces!'). Is there some kind of mental disorder that makes people pretend to be the niece of famous people, or do she just really lack imagination? At least mix it up a little - pretend to be someone's second cousin or their dentist or something once in a while!
Then an anonymous 'friend' of the plagiarist starts sending abusive emails claiming to be the niece of a publishing exec (and the publishing exec also responds with 'hella no I know my own nieces!'). Is there some kind of mental disorder that makes people pretend to be the niece of famous people, or do she just really lack imagination? At least mix it up a little - pretend to be someone's second cousin or their dentist or something once in a while!
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Maryland teacher placed "on administrative leave" for writing speculative fiction as a student.
If the police have more on this guy than "wrote a novel about a school shooting several years ago when he was a college student" and "is black," they should probably mention it, and quick. Because right now all you can see is a massive violation of this guy's civil rights.
Also, when someone makes up a name and publishes books under it, you don't call it an "alias." It's a "pen name." Like "Mark Twain," for instance.
If the police have more on this guy than "wrote a novel about a school shooting several years ago when he was a college student" and "is black," they should probably mention it, and quick. Because right now all you can see is a massive violation of this guy's civil rights.
Also, when someone makes up a name and publishes books under it, you don't call it an "alias." It's a "pen name." Like "Mark Twain," for instance.
Coneycat- Posts : 546
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Yeah unless they come out and say they had any other evidence, this is the incredibly appalling.
Kiran- Posts : 2583
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A friend of mine literally called me at work to tell me about this horrible story about an author stalking someone who wrote her a negative review.
Shadowlass- Posts : 437
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YES. I always read selections on the Longform app before going to sleep, and when I read that story last night, I was flabbergasted. And that was without knowing a single thing about the author (thanks for linking that Jezebel article for additional background). Great googly moogly.
Fraoch- Posts : 97
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I read the second link first and spent the entire time wondering, "...Am I supposed to be rooting for this author?"
Insane.
Insane.
laddical- Posts : 1607
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That is horrifying. I posted a positive review of a book I just read on Goodreads, and I was FLABBERGASTED when the author liked my review.
Unlucky Bear- Official Succubus
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Well, that's not creepy as hell or anything. At least Anne Rice kept it online.
Eris Rising- Posts : 1040
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That is bananas. Hale sounds dangerous. I can't believe people are actually supporting this vile person.
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She really does. Like, there's hints of self-awareness and a nod in the direction of, "Yeah, I was wrong", but no sense at all that she gets just how wrong.
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