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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Cutebutpsycho on Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:51 pm

DITTO. Heimdall would be the perfect deadpan partner for Darcy.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  punzy on Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:26 am

Someone needs to pitch that as a side movie.

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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Skyblade on Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:11 pm

As a matter of fact, Thor and Sif in the comics isn't even this ironclad thing--they pretty much get together because Norse Mythology (Of which Sif does not actually resemble much) says they do, but they tend to have other dance partners from time to time.

Yeah, I think Daredevil is kind of a inert asset for Marvel films, especially since their overeaching plan is for a big cosmic thing that Daredevil doesn't really fit into. (Man, it sucks we're not going to get a Thanos/Surfer matchup onscreen instead) He really doesn't have an identity in the meta-franchise they have going on.

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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  epudom on Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:39 pm

Saw Iron Man 3 a couple of hours ago, and it is pretty awesome. It might be my favourite of the 3 to date, even though I got sad whenever I thought of Son of Coul.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  laddical on Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:25 pm

Joss hints at Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch for Avengers 2

Joss is coy, but there aren't really that many brother-sister teams in the comics, and most of those are in the X-Men. Feige, however, pretty much confirms it when he explains that they can use the pair but they can't be mutants or related to Magneto, and Fox could use them but they can't refer to the Avengers.

So basically, it will come down to who gets to them first and how much of a hissy fit Fox wants to throw with their lawyers. And I think you could put money that Fox is going to throw a hissy fit if Marvel gets there first. The only question is whether they'd try to stop them going into production or - far more likely - wait until the movie is a month from release and then seek an injunction unless Disney pays them an extortionate amount of money.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Red Wolf on Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:21 am

Saw Iron Man 3 a couple of hours ago, and it is pretty awesome. It might be my favourite of the 3 to date.
It is indeed. There were a couple of bits I didn't get, but ultimately, it had everything. If this is the last one, then it's good to go out on top. Also, I know Shane Black has been around for a long time, and has had a good career. But I expect after this, he'll get a bunch of really big titles offered to him.

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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  QueenSix on Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:17 pm

My mother and me went to see the film this afternoon. It was the perfect antidote to a weekend that was filled with Guiding stuff and a week that is full of camp stuff. This film is so good that I would let it get me pregnant. And never call me again. Well, maybe I'd like it to check in from time to time.

I was worried when I read that
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they were giving Tony Stark scenes with a young kid because that usually spells schmaltzy death but it was very well done and they stayed true to Stark's character.

Shane Black once again proves that, given the chance, he's a great director. He handled the whole thing, characters, visual effects with aplomb. APLOMB, I TELLS YA!

And stay for the end credit scene. It's so much fun!

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Post  laddical on Fri May 03, 2013 4:01 am

SO. GOOD.

And

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Tony and Bruce 4ever!!!!!!! I won't say it was the best thing about the movie, but it was a spectacular way to close it out.

I'm a little disappointed with myself that in all the images leading up to the release of the movie concerning the destruction of the mansion that it never once occurred to me to wonder about the fate of Dummy and the other helpers.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Red Wolf on Fri May 03, 2013 4:25 am

About the end.
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I'd forgotten who that was. I thought maybe it was Shane Black, playing off the idea of a script doctor. However, once I found out it was Bruce, it made perfect sense.

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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  laddical on Fri May 03, 2013 4:56 am

The more I think about it, the more disappointed I am

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with how things went down with "Trevor Slattery". I feel like an opportunity was wasted. We had a reference to "Ten Rings" in the first movie, which gave us hopes for the Mandarin that didn't materialize with the second movie. Then we get Ben Kingsley as this "post-modern terrorist warlord" thing, which actually sounds kind of cool... only he's just some stupid actor?

I'm hoping it's a double blind. They kept this shit under *wraps*. I had no idea that was coming. So I'm hoping that they're also sitting tight on plans already in place for the next movie which will reveal that "Trevor Slattery" really was the Mandarin all along. That's a bit of a stretch, I know. But I'm hoping.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Red Wolf on Fri May 03, 2013 5:23 am

Laddical
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I agree. Or alternately, that Killian was actually working for the real Mandarin, maybe someone a little more Asian than Ben Kingsley. Not that I want to get into yellow peril territory, but I believe in the right person for the job, and sometimes the right person looks like the right person. Alternately, Ben Kingsley got the surgery to look like a specif person. Ultimately, I like him acting like a fool. Entertaining.

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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  laddical on Fri May 03, 2013 5:59 am

But that disappointment is completely offset by

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Pepper going all Extremis on Killian and stomping the shit out of him like she was born to be a superhero in her own right. And I was hoping, right up to the end, that Tony's solution to her problem of going 'splodey was going to involve her own arc reactor (since comic Pepper got one) and that part of her coming to grips with Tony's armored side would be a suit of armor of her own (which comic Pepper also got). So YAY! for Pepper in suit and bad-ass semi-suited Pepper killing the Big Bad. Not so yay for it not being a permanent "upgrade" for her.

And in non-spoiler yakking...

I liked the opening scene in Bern in 1999. I liked the use of "Blue (Da Ba Dee)" - it sent me right back to 1999 so fast I found myself singing along to a song I haven't heard in 14 years. And they were never going to get Jon and RDJ to look 13 years younger, so they didn't really try, opting instead to just put Happy in a five years out of date "John Travolta in Pulp Fiction" hairdo. That was an excellent touch.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  RiverThames on Sat May 04, 2013 1:23 am

Pretty awesome.

I kind of saw the whole movie as a more thoughtful answer to Steve's question in Avengers. "Big man in a suit of armor. Take that away, what are you?"
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  The Dude on Sat May 04, 2013 3:17 am

Was that
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Val Kilmer as the Pony Tail Thug
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Loved it.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Melk on Sat May 04, 2013 11:54 am

I saw this yesterday and I really, really enjoyed it. I was worried it was going to be like Iron Man 2, a bit bloated and all over the shop, but not at all. The plot was really focused and there was nothing I could have done without. And it was amazing fun.

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My only issue I guess was that I hoped Tony was going to wind up getting the working version of Extremis, like he did in the comics. But only because I think it would have been pretty cool. Extremis!Pepper being the one to give the final smackdown to the big bad almost completely made up for it. I was also disappointed when they handwaved 'it was all magically fixed' it at the end. I could quite happily have taken superpowered Pepper. Gwyneth Paltrow might be unbearably pretentious in real life, but she is incredibly likable playing Pepper Potts.

I was completely fine with the Mandarin situation being what it was. Personally, I think the character in the 21st century is on some pretty shaky ground anyway, his potential offensiveness only mitigated by the fact that he was conceived decades ago, and comic readers are now just used to him. A movie going audience who had largely not read the comics might have found him uncomfortable to swallow as a villain. This nicely sidestepped that. And Guy Pearce more than fulfilled the camp villainy requirements - he was great.

When the film was over the credits seemed to go on forever, and I'm afraid I campaigned to just leave and go to the pub already. I'm glad my friend wouldn't budge, because the Bruce Banner scene was well worth hanging on for.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  dionneshea on Sat May 04, 2013 3:28 pm

I really, really enjoyed it.

Favourite things?
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While I'm not sure I loved the Mandarin fake-out, I thought Ben Kingsley was amazing. I did think Guy Pearce was great, though his performance strongly reminded me of Val Kilmer in "The Saint" mixed with Jim Carrey as the Riddler. I loved all of Happy's scenes, and his love of Downton Abbey and in particular the chauffeur that gets the girl. Don Cheadle was fantastic. It's gotten so that I can't imagine what Rhodes would be like if still played by Terrence Howard. There's an easy, goofy humor to him that he balances perfectly with being a badass that I just don't see anyone else pulling off. I'm not even a little bit of a Gwyneth fan, but I love Pepper Potts and her saving the day. And finally RDJ who is Tony Stark. He just is. And he's glorious. The writing was fantastic except for a few caveats, and the 3-D didn't smack me in the face, which I enjoyed. And the post-credits scene? Perfection. Tony and Bruce are BrOTPs.

Very limited list of things I didn't love:
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I didn't really understand the Extremis thing. Like, there was a missing space for the DNA upgrade in the brain, but how did that turn someone into a molten lava person? I just didn't get it. And linked to that (I'm guessing) is that I didn't really understand the point of Rebeccca Hall's character, or whether she was good or bad. And I thought there'd be a mention of SHIELD looking into the Mandarin or at least an explanation of why they weren't.

But all-in-all, yay more Marvel Universe!
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  laddical on Sat May 04, 2013 6:47 pm

Re your last point, when Tony is reconstrucing the Chinese Theater crime scene he mentions getting all available data from a few agencies, including SHIELD.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Agent Sculder on Sat May 04, 2013 6:51 pm

Quick question to those of you who have seen it: did you see it in IMAX, 3-D, or regular projection? I don't generally like 3-D because of the color issues, but there is an IMAX 3-D theater near me, and I'm sort of intrigued to see it that way. Any thoughts?

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Post  laddical on Sat May 04, 2013 7:06 pm

I saw it in standard 3D and it as was okay. The AMC I went to criminally underlit it, though, so it was dark movie through dark glasses.

After the horrid experience I had with the Hobbit in IMAX, I won't be seeing any movies in IMAX 3D.

My vote is always to go non-3D. Only reason I saw this in 3D is because I went with a very large group that had already picked it.
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Post  Red Wolf on Sat May 04, 2013 7:24 pm

I saw it in regular 3d. Or at least, that's what I was told. Not sure I could really notice the difference between 3d and 2d.

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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  sagitare on Sat May 04, 2013 11:18 pm

Freaking loved it. My two favourite bits were
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Pepper Potts laying the smackdown on Killian and the whole Mandarin thing, which had us howling. I thought that was hilarious and Kingsley played it to perfection.

So much RDJ love, of course - there are lines and scenes which only he can make work, and just the little touches he does that again, only he could get away with, like
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when he's grooving the Christmas music before testing the latest version of the suit.
I definitely agree that the direction was great and that the story as a whole was well balanced. When you can include
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a young kid into the mix and not have it go cliched and treacly then that's well done.
With respect to
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the 'reversal', if you will, of Pepper's Extremis situation, I kind of thought that the resolution to that was vague enough that if they wanted to bring it back in a subsequent movie they could. I can certainly see them going with the idea that they were able to stabilize the technology or something like that. Because honestly, Pepper with that ability and a suit? Way too good of an opportunity to pass up at some point!
I liked Don Cheadle a lot as well, he definitely has much more screen presence than Howard. I did think it was hilarious, though, when
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Killian forces him out of the suit and he's wearing just this regular old golf shirt and pants. Like seriously, no super-suit underwear, basically? Just a Lacoste shirt and dockers? Heh.

The only complaint I had, and it was a very small one, was I thought the fight scenes came across as too frenetic and were hard to follow, visually - maybe the blocking was too tight or the edits too fast. I would have liked to have had more space to just watch and enjoy them. But other than that, a terrific movie, easily equal to the first one.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  punzy on Sun May 05, 2013 1:35 am

So much fun! Along with things already mentioned by others, I loved the House Party.

Also,
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I know it is a small and relatively unimportant bit, but I like that they gave the Vice-President more motivation than mustache twirling, "Then I shall rule!" motivation. A tiny moment but very nice.

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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  bookworm on Sun May 05, 2013 8:05 pm

Just saw and I enjoyed it, but one thing reay annoyed me.
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when the force don cheadle out of his suit, and then they just leave him? So that he can beat them up later?
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Cynara on Sun May 05, 2013 8:38 pm

Good times, good times. Question: is
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the little kid a Marvel canon character?

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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  TiffanyNichelle on Sun May 05, 2013 8:57 pm

I really liked it. I saw it in Imax 3D which was pretty cool. Only three things kind of bugged.

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1. Pepper at the end with the big save. I like Pepper in the movies, it really is the only time I enjoy GP but I was still rolling my eyes.

2. So if the Mandarin wasn't allowed real guns what happened with the Roxxon accountant? Did someone else shoot him since the camera was on the Mandarin's face the whole time or did he not die at all? I was confused.

3. Tony could have taken the shrapnel out this whole freaking time and lived? So him building better ways to keep the shrapnel out of his heart, his worry about the power source in Iron Man 2 was what?

Also I enjoyed Don Cheadle so much more in this movie than I did in IM2 but seriously who did
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he piss off in wardrobe to be stuck in that green polo shirt for the majority of his scenes? "I'm going hunting for a terrorist but when I'm done I'm popping over to the Home Depot to pick up some stuff.
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