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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  laddical on Sun May 05, 2013 10:10 pm

TiffanyNichelle,

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I think Tony only managed to get the shrapnel removed after "fixing" Extremis - since he says that first he fixed Pepper and then decided "Why stop there?"

Sadly, The Dude, I kept an eye on Ponytail Express and checked the credits and he was not Val Kilmer. Which would have been so freaking cool. The actor in question is Mark Kubr, who has apparently stunted in all three IM movies and is Mickey Rourke's personal stunt double.

The first time through, I wondered why Tony would

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destroy all of his suits - even as a grand gesture for Pepper, it seems a bit much. But then I realized, watching the second time, that his panic-stricken busy work on no sleep is actually pretty shoddy. In the final battle, any suit with Tony in it has a life span measured in seconds. Even if one of them had survived the thrashing in the SHIELD Helicarrier turbine, it probably wouldn't have survived the fall out of the wormhole. So he's probably better off starting from scratch.

I noticed that Tony referred to several of the suits by name - Red Snapper (or Sniper?), Heartbreaker, and the Hulkbuster armor had a name I didn't catch (it might have been Hulkbuster for all I know - though movie Tony seems less inclined to be building armor to take down Bruce than comic Tony). I wonder if they actually had names for all 34 of the new armors, or just those three.

I wasn't sold on the end titles the first time through. I thought the end titles for Thor, Captain America, and The Avengers were close to perfect, so it was a bit of a let down. But the second time, they really clicked for me. I still like the other three better, but I love the "70s action-drama freeze frame" quality of this one.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Putli Bai on Sun May 05, 2013 10:30 pm

bookworm wrote:Just saw and I enjoyed it, but one thing reay annoyed me.
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when the force don cheadle out of his suit, and then they just leave him? So that he can beat them up later?

Good question. The only thing I called shenanigans on was this:
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when Rhodie asks for a suit during the big finale, Tony tells him all the suits will only work with him. But we saw him "put" the suit on Pepper, and it worked for her - even though she's never worn one before. Which, come to think of it, she doesn't really react to it. And apparently anyone can drive Iron Patriot. You'd think those things would have tighter security than my 2001 Mercury Cougar.

But other than that - YAY. I don't know that I'd put it ahead of the first one, but it's miles better than the second one. The scenes with the kid were awesome. I was a little disappointed that we didn't get an end scene
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where the kid is being bullied, and Iron Man rolls up to protect him.
Sort of like my favorite scene from Bad Santa, only with less Billy Bob Thornton.

Laddical, thanks for explaining that (about the shrapnel). Because I was wondering the same thing. I haven't read any of the comics books - does something similar happen there?
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  laddical on Sun May 05, 2013 10:38 pm

Also, re the shrapnel -

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Apparently in the Chinese version, it's entirely *not* Tony that does it. The tech and plan for removing the shrapnel are from the Dr. Wu that Yinsin introduces him to in Bern at the beginning. The great big "edit" for China involves Dr. Wu placing a phone call to Tony after his threat to the Mandarin (or "Man Daren" in China) and speaking to JARVIS, some crazy Chinese dairy product placement, and then some extra shots at the end surrounding the shrapnel removal. It seems like a colossal waste, to me, but I'm not a bean counter at Disney trying to ensure that we can crack the tightly controlled Chinese market.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  PrincessCleo on Sun May 05, 2013 10:58 pm

TiffanyNichelle wrote:Also I enjoyed Don Cheadle so much more in this movie than I did in IM2 but seriously who did
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he piss off in wardrobe to be stuck in that green polo shirt for the majority of his scenes? "I'm going hunting for a terrorist but when I'm done I'm popping over to the Home Depot to pick up some stuff.
That cracked me up so bad. He still managed to be badass, but yeah, wtf.

Speaking of clothes and things that are hilarious, I just started shaking my head when
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Guy Pearce emerged from whatever fireball of total immolation... with pants. Like, I get it, but I had no idea the Extremis technology worked on khakis as well. He looked like he was having SO MUCH FUN with the role, though.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Shalamar on Sun May 05, 2013 11:41 pm

First of all, NICE ABS on Gwynnie!

Loved the kid. "My dad went to 7/11 for some scratchers, and I guess he won, because that was 6 years ago."

Loved the plane rescue scene.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  jstilwe on Mon May 06, 2013 12:47 am

Loved it. My favorite throwaway bit was when during the big fight sequence in the Miami house, when Tony is laying waste to all the henchmen, and the one throws his hands up and says he hates the job: "They're really weird." If Joss Whedon or RDJ didn't come up with that line, I would be shocked.

I even loved the kid, and I fully admit that I rolled my eyes when he showed up.

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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  TiffanyNichelle on Mon May 06, 2013 12:52 am

Thanks for the explanation about Tony
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and the shrapnel. So he could only remove it because of the Extremis tech. Ok. That makes sense.

I bet Guy Pearce's
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were really good pants. Like he got them at Banana Republic or something. Pepper's hair, bra, and pants managed to make through the drop into a giant ball of fire too. It reminded me of X-Men 3 where Jean is burning off Wolverine's clothes, hair, and skin in certain places but she managed to protect his modesty and left the pants alone.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  laddical on Mon May 06, 2013 1:07 am

I really would not have been able to buy Terrence Howard being as casually (dressed) bad-ass as Don Cheadle was.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Raksha on Mon May 06, 2013 3:40 am

I just got back from seeing Iron Man and I'm so happy! So great! Such a great looking, enjoyable movie. I can't wait to see it again!
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  sen3 on Mon May 06, 2013 8:52 am

jstilwe wrote:I even loved the kid, and I fully admit that I rolled my eyes when he showed up.

I did too, but when I saw that the kid was pretty cool and especially that Tony treated him just like he does everyone else, I was A-OK and enjoyed the scenes. And it lead to my favorite line "Hey, that's my friend's sister's watch! Limited edition!" or something like that.

Also related, a fun thing happened at our theater. When we were leaving the movie we were walking out behind this family with a little boy around four in his full Iron Man costume and there was a huge line of people waiting for the next showings and they all clapped and cheered for the little boy! It was awesome and he loved it and it made me remember that kids love Iron Man via that video of RDJ showing up at the kid Iron Man costume contest at the SD Comic Con. So all that made me glad they included the little boy character in the movie.

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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Carrie Ann on Mon May 06, 2013 12:11 pm

Man, this was awesome. I haven't seen a movie in the theater since I had a baby last fall, and this was an excellent way to return. After the disappointment of IM2, this was like a complete return to form. It feels so much more like the first one, and like The Avengers, that they can all flow nicely into each other and I don't ever have to watch IM2 again.

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I can't get over how much I love Pepper Potts. I really adore her, and it makes me love Gwyneth on-screen again. How is a love-interest character in a comic book movie one of her best roles ever? I was really afraid the movie was going to end with either her death or a breakup because of the whole cliched "My life is too dangerous for you" crap. I'm a little overly attached to Tony and Pepper, so I was thrilled with the ending. And with the second ending with Tony's other soul mate!

Also LOVED the kid. Can we see him again in future movies? He and RDJ had great chemistry.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  laddical on Mon May 06, 2013 4:53 pm

In a movie filled with zingers, I think my favorite was

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"You mean Sir Laurence Oblivier?"
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Putli Bai on Mon May 06, 2013 6:40 pm

jstilwe wrote:Loved it. My favorite throwaway bit was when during the big fight sequence in the Miami house, when Tony is laying waste to all the henchmen, and the one throws his hands up and says he hates the job: "They're really weird." If Joss Whedon or RDJ didn't come up with that line, I would be shocked.

I even loved the kid, and I fully admit that I rolled my eyes when he showed up.

Whedon got a "thank you" in the credits - I wonder if they had him take a look at the script to punch up the dialogue.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  laddical on Mon May 06, 2013 7:05 pm

It's possible, but with Shane Black as director, totally unnecessary.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  The Dude on Mon May 06, 2013 8:30 pm

laddical wrote:TiffanyNichelle,

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I think Tony only managed to get the shrapnel removed after "fixing" Extremis - since he says that first he fixed Pepper and then decided "Why stop there?"

Sadly, The Dude, I kept an eye on Ponytail Express and checked the credits and he was not Val Kilmer. Which would have been so freaking cool. The actor in question is Mark Kubr, who has apparently stunted in all three IM movies and is Mickey Rourke's personal stunt double.

With the weight gains, I wasn't sure if it was Val. A full on Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang reunion would have been epic.

God Cheadle was such a trade up. He can keep up with RDJ, which is a rarity.

Out of the two guys just nailing their iconic roles right now I'm glad RDJ is so much more into it than Daniel Craig.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  MtOlivePickles on Wed May 08, 2013 3:03 am

The Dude wrote:Out of the two guys just nailing their iconic roles right now I'm glad RDJ is so much more into it than Daniel Craig.

In a way, I was comparing IM3 to Skyfall, in that they are the third part of something that is vastly superior to the preceding movie, and almost on par (if not better than) the first installment.

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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  biakbiak on Wed May 08, 2013 3:35 am

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And apparently anyone can drive Iron Patriot. You'd think those things would have tighter security than my 2001 Mercury Cougar.

I didn't think that wad weird because
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AIM did the redesign on the Iron patriot, including upgrades because that is how Tony figured out what they were doing; and the plan always included the henchman using it to get on Air force One and the President getting off it, so it would have been preprogrammed for both.

I thought it was great fun.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Binky on Thu May 09, 2013 8:27 pm

I really enjoyed Iron Man 3. Though I admit I slightly prefer manic self-destruction Tony of IM2 to maturing, anxiety-prone mechanic, but it makes sense storywise.

What an amazing cast. I swear, Pepper Potts is the only role I adore Gwyneth Paltrow in. I am so thrilled she got her own
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super hero creation story.
. Ben Kingsley was epic. Like...I kind want him to win something. Guy Pearce held his own, which is about all you can ask for on screen with RDJ. The child actor and the handling of that storyline could have gone so terrible, but it didn't. Credit to the child and RDJ. I liked Don Cheadle way more in this movie than I did IM2 - his Rhodey finally felt like Tony's friend.

I feel like this might be the most rewatchable Iron Man.

And adore, adore, adore the scene after the credits. My friend and I were talking about how they really didn't explain the absence of the Avengers
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and we decided Bruce could have easily shown up. And then he did!
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Unlucky Bear on Sun May 12, 2013 2:10 am

Man, all of Killian's henchmen had great lines. After "I don't even LIKE this job. They are SO WEIRD here." I had to put my sleeve over my mouth to stifle my laughter.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Rhilin on Sun May 12, 2013 4:45 pm

laddical wrote:I noticed that Tony referred to several of the suits by name - Red Snapper (or Sniper?), Heartbreaker, and the Hulkbuster armor had a name I didn't catch (it might have been Hulkbuster for all I know - though movie Tony seems less inclined to be building armor to take down Bruce than comic Tony). I wonder if they actually had names for all 34 of the new armors, or just those three.

Somewhere on the internet, there is indeed a mockup of all 42 suits, what they were designed for, and what they were named. It showed up on my tumblr a while ago, but I had no idea what it was about at the time, or I would have saved it.

Man, all of Killian's henchmen had great lines. After "I don't even LIKE this job. They are SO WEIRD here." I had to put my sleeve over my mouth to stifle my laughter.

I think this might be my favorite Iron Man film, but even if it wasn't that whole scene alone was worth the ticket price.

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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  laddical on Wed May 15, 2013 4:26 pm

Bringing this over from the Pretty thread.

MtOlivePickles wrote:Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie, and Scarlett Johansson chillin' on the set of Captain America 2. I appreciate whoever does wardrobe and keeps putting Evans in those snug t-shirts.

I can't even with Chris Evans and his arms. Just guh. That whole torso is a physical impossibility.

Excuse me. I need to get to the gym now.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Miss Moneypenny on Wed May 15, 2013 4:57 pm

laddical wrote:Bringing this over from the Pretty thread.

MtOlivePickles wrote:Chris Evans, Anthony Mackie, and Scarlett Johansson chillin' on the set of Captain America 2. I appreciate whoever does wardrobe and keeps putting Evans in those snug t-shirts.

I can't even with Chris Evans and his arms. Just guh. That whole torso is a physical impossibility.

Excuse me. I need to get to the gym now.

And yet there is a poster at ONTD who consistently complains that he is TOO SKINNY to play Steve Rogers. I guess comics really do create unrealistic body image problems!
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Eris Rising on Wed May 15, 2013 5:51 pm

Renner's likely to be recast.
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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Kiran on Wed May 15, 2013 6:17 pm

That may very well be true, but are there any more...legit news sources on that? I'm only asking being I google newsed it and there is nothing on any of the trades, or EW, or deadline and you know Nikki Finke's thirsty ass would be all over this.

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Re: The Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  SarahJanet on Wed May 15, 2013 6:18 pm

Noooooooooo not Jeremy Renner's arrrrrms!

Damn, that's a shame. I really liked him and was hoping for a Renner/Johansson buddy movie in Budapest.

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