Sleepy Hollow

Oh wow, that's better than I thought! Thanks! Yeah, the wait will be long, but it's the same as with the other short seasons on True Blood, Dexter etc, and I survive those. I'll miss it though!

I am merely meh on Katrina because of the writing and pacing so it's not Katrina hate talking but these last few episodes have bored the shit out of me. I want Ichabod and Abbie to be having fun fighting crazy fucked up make no sense crimes mixed with random messed up history. These Ichabod heavy mythology building episodes just leave me cold and not even that interested in watching the next two episodes much less tuning in for next season.

We did all note that Crane, Jr is in still in the box waiting for Dad to dig him up, right? Just like Delphine LaLaurie. The witches were very specific: they "stopped his heart." They didn't say they killed him, Crane said that and they didn't correct him.

Perhaps I'm overthinking.

Note to Katrina: Good thing you got out of that organization when you did, the dental plan is terrible.

I loved the "awful intercourse" would lead to a second date exchange.

Corvus wrote:We did all note that Crane, Jr is in still in the box waiting for Dad to dig him up, right? Just like Delphine LaLaurie. The witches were very specific: they "stopped his heart." They didn't say they killed him, Crane said that and they didn't correct him.

Perhaps I'm overthinking.

No, I think you're spot on.  The terms used seemed too specific to not be giving themselves a doorway to bring Crane Jr into the present.

I fully expect Jr. to end up a Molloch minion once he's dug up so Icabod has more angst to deal with.

I really hope that letting go of Jeremy means that we're done with Ichabod's manpain and can return to the scheduled adventures of our dymanic duo, kicking demon ass and forestalling the Apocalypse.

This is probably stupid, but it bothered me that he was named Jeremy and not Jeremiah. I don't think people used Jeremy as a first name in its own right until last century. I could be wrong! But it seemed off to me.

They did! Jeremy Bentham, born 1748, invented the Panopticon.

All right, you win this round, with your "facts."

I wasn't sure either, but I love researching random things.

Well, I am 1.5 episodes into this and totally hooked. People from the past time-traveling into the present and being amazed at the ways of modern times IS MY FAVORITE. As is creepy apocalypse stuff. Plus the two leads are delightful.

Me in the first five minutes:

"Clancy Brown! :D"

"Clancy Brown! D:"

One of us! One of us!

Wait, OK...episode 3...I get this is the premise we're on our way to establishing, but...episode 3 and everyone just accepts that the time-traveling weird guy (who's still wearing his old-timey clothes) is now part of a random police investigation? He just asks if he can see the body and the medical examiner is like "sure, crazy time-traveling guy, of course, for professional reasons, go right ahead." Did he drive there? Does he have a badge?

I mean, I can live with it. Hee.

I hate snow, but I do enjoy not having to go to work and being able to watch TV all day instead. Especially when it's a windchill of -11F out there right now. Yikes.

He is a history professor, that is all the credentials you need! Right? It is totally normal for rando professors to wander onto crime scenes to help the police.

I'm a professor and I show up at crime scenes all the time! No, wait, I don't. But now I'm tempted to try. Maybe it only works if I dress in 18th century garb.

Instant Monkeys wrote:Wait, OK...episode 3...I get this is the premise we're on our way to establishing, but...episode 3 and everyone just accepts that the time-traveling weird guy (who's still wearing his old-timey clothes) is now part of a random police investigation? He just asks if he can see the body and the medical examiner is like "sure, crazy time-traveling guy, of course, for professional reasons, go right ahead."

That's the beauty of the show right there: the writers/powers that be know they're starting with a fairly ridiculous premise, so instead of wasting time trying to justify or explain things, they embrace all of the crazy and just go for it. That's a huge part of the reason why the show works (the rest being the terrific cast). It's kind of like walking a tightrope: if you thought about what you're doing, or looked down, you'd be lost. Best to just keep looking forward and keep moving.

The way I read it, once Captain Irving gives the OK for him to be around, everyone else just shrugs and goes with it. I don't think they believe he's a time traveling whatever; I just think they think he must have some expertise.

The funny thing is - it took me a few seasons to get into Castle, because I could not buy the logic that a writer was allowed to be that involved with police cases, interrogations, etc. But give me a time-travelling, back from the dead British Revolutionary solider, and hey, I'm in.

"How dare you ask me about some old Native American legend about a murderous dream-spirit? Do I look like a shaman to you? I run a used car lot. What, do you think I have some mystical Native American cave full of shaman potions just at the ready for some hokey spiritual journey? Beat it!" [five seconds later] "FIIIIIINNNNEEE, come with me to my mystical cave full of shaman potions that I already have mixed in advance so I can guide you on your magical spiritual dream journey to fight an ancient Native American dream-spirit."

I think that was my favorite so far. Hee hee. Also the Roanoake stuff was awesome. I love stuff like that. But...Middle English? Which really sounded more like they were going for Anglo-Saxon, but mixed with fake German with an occasional Frenchy-sounding word thrown in?

OH, my other favorite thing, which I think sums up the show basically, was when Abbie stole the ambulance with Crane and the kid in it, and one of the ambulance driver guys did this hilarious gesture where he just sort of threw up his hands in mild exasperation. She just not only stole an ambulance from the CDC, but one that was transporting two victims of a super-contagious and mysterious disease, which if not contained could almost instantly decimate the entire population, and you guys are like "Rats! I have a case of the Mondays all right. Let's go get a beer, I think we've earned it."

I'm making fun out of affection. I am INTO this show. I like how there is very little dicking around. They just GET TO IT. Also I didn't mention before but that demon that attacked John Cho through the mirror was AAAWWWEESSOOOOOOME (and that neck thing was super duper gross). That herky-jerky horror-movie thing always works on me, and it was just the right amount of blurry, and then the startle moment. Good show.

ETA: JOHN NOBLE I MISSED YOOOOOUUUUUUUU.

Instant Monkeys wrote:Also I didn't mention before but that demon that attacked John Cho through the mirror was AAAWWWEESSOOOOOOME (and that neck thing was super duper gross). That herky-jerky horror-movie thing always works on me, and it was just the right amount of blurry, and then the startle moment. Good show.

I tell you what, they are spending their special effects budget very wisely and very well. That logical silliness of the show is more than offset by moments like that, which are genuinely creepy and really well done. That bit in particular is a favourite of mine, too!

Skinny jeans! And yay! for getting him back in his own clothes.

Apart from the silliness about the date written in the bible (newsflash, Ichabod and Abbie, Washington could've written that date BEFORE he died), this was a terrific episode. Ichabod's expression when Abbie's butt was pressed against his face was priceless.

That was a pretty bad visual effect, too. But yeah, I had the same thought -- dudes, he could've written that date anytime he wanted. Look, I can write "January 16, 2134" right now. HOW DID I DO IT?!?!?!?!?!?

But I love the show anyway. We are in a place right now where it gets passes from me on things like that.

From Ausiello's column over at TV Line:

Question: On Sleepy Hollow, I didn’t understand why Abbie and Ichabod automatically assumed that George Washington had written in his Bible after his death. Did I miss something? –Andy

Ausiello: TVLine put that exact question to Ichabod himself, Tom Mison, who had this answer: “This is Sleepy Hollow, and it’s in hidden ink, in Washington’s Bible that was buried with Ichabod. My spoiler is: Yes, something weird is going on.” (Now imagine that in Crane’s clipped accent, and you’ll feel exactly as stupid as we did when he schooled us.)

A bit of dialogue that said basically this would have helped because yeah, in the episode it is a silly moment where you think, "Dude, he could have written that any time."