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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  RiverThames on Tue Apr 05, 2016 3:32 pm

OK, here's part of why I found the Second Season of Daredevil kind of a hot mess, even though it had plenty of good bits.  The stakes are too off-the-scale from the get-go, screwed by the pacing.

Here's what I mean.  In the first scene where Foggy and Matt are going to work and chatting, let's call that, for all intents, "Monday Morning".  We don't know what day of the week it is, but let's say it's Monday.  They go into the office, and things are bustling. Plenty of work to do, plenty of people want Nelson & Murdock help, even if they're paying in fruit and casseroles.  

Tons of shit goes down over the next four episodes, but the timing is made pretty damn clear of it all, so when the dust settles and Matt goes into the office after
Spoiler:
the Punisher is arrested
, it's THURSDAY MORNING.  

72 hours.

Fine, that's fine.

But in those 72 hours, apparently the DA has made N&M so hated, so toxic, that they have no business anymore.  None.  All the poor, desperate people who were filling their halls and paying with pies, apparently, stopped showing up because the DA is mad at Foggy.  Because those people care so much about the politics of the District Attorney's office, and stopped having their desperate legal problems that only N&M would take on.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  laddical on Wed May 18, 2016 3:44 am

What on Earth was the opening scene with Coulson and Daisy on an "Earth" that looked like Hive's planet?

It seemed like a flash forward to me, but they never wrapped things back around to it. Did I miss some key indicator that it was a dream? I know the next scene was Daisy lying in bed in the quarantine room, but I didn't get a sense that it was meant to be interpreted as a dream. It feels like someone screwed up in editing - like they shot the scene before they had massive rewrites for Part 2 that removed the scene's context. I don't know. It was just weird.

Not happy with Emo Daisy. Jury's out on how I feel about Coulson no longer being the Director until we find out who *is* - I'm thinking May, but lordy she would hate that job.

As for the Life Model Decoy thing at the end... AIDA is from the Squadron Supreme universe of Marvel Comics, a sort of Marvel take on the DCU and the Justice League. Wonder if they're going to do alternate universe hopping in Season Four. Probably not. Though it might go a way towards explaining why the movies, AOS, and the Netflix shows seem to increasingly disregard the existence of each other.

Just... a little crossover is all I ask.

ETA: Not sure about the "six months later" card. It's only four months, four and a half, to the new season. And we know that this show is set in the "present" since it takes place after the Sokovia Accords. So six months would be November. Was it just a sloppy reach for the nearest "round" number for a time jump? Or when the show comes back in late September will we have two months of show leading back up to the botched sting we just saw and Radcliffe's LMD reveal?
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  dionneshea on Wed May 18, 2016 9:59 pm

laddical wrote:What on Earth was the opening scene with Coulson and Daisy on an "Earth" that looked like Hive's planet?

It seemed like a flash forward to me, but they never wrapped things back around to it. Did I miss some key indicator that it was a dream? I know the next scene was Daisy lying in bed in the quarantine room, but I didn't get a sense that it was meant to be interpreted as a dream. It feels like someone screwed up in editing - like they shot the scene before they had massive rewrites for Part 2 that removed the scene's context. I don't know. It was just weird.
Not being snarky, but did you miss Daisy waking up in bed? That was a pretty concrete indicator to me that she was dreaming. Coulson saying, "You are on Earth" as she snaps awake with a gasp. Classic awaking-from-a-dream acting. (Because how often does that happen in real life?)

So, is Ward/Hive finally dead? Not that Brett Dalton isn't great to look at, but it does seem like Grant used up all his lives and then some. That being said, I did enjoy the peaceful nature of his final scene with Lincoln, just floating out there. If he is gone, it was a nice way to be sent out.

And I'm just relieved, because I was so sure they were going to kill off either Fitz and/or Simmons or Mack and I didn't want to lose any of them. I can lose Lincoln. I enjoyed him, but he never felt like part of Team Shield to me.

Also, yay to John Hannah being added to the cast. He'll provide some lighter moments, I'm sure. I've adored him ever since Four Weddings and a Funeral. (Which came out 22 years ago. Good God I'm old.)
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  RiverThames on Wed May 18, 2016 10:08 pm

dionneshea wrote:
laddical wrote:What on Earth was the opening scene with Coulson and Daisy on an "Earth" that looked like Hive's planet?

It seemed like a flash forward to me, but they never wrapped things back around to it. Did I miss some key indicator that it was a dream? I know the next scene was Daisy lying in bed in the quarantine room, but I didn't get a sense that it was meant to be interpreted as a dream. It feels like someone screwed up in editing - like they shot the scene before they had massive rewrites for Part 2 that removed the scene's context. I don't know. It was just weird.
Not being snarky, but did you miss Daisy waking up in bed? That was a pretty concrete indicator to me that she was dreaming. Coulson saying, "You are on Earth" as she snaps awake with a gasp. Classic awaking-from-a-dream acting. (Because how often does that happen in real life?)

But the set-up was weirdly specific and not at all dream-like. And then later bits seemed to be aiming in the direction of that being some sort of flashforward. Like making sure that Daisy and Coulson were not just on the Zephyr, but with the module as well. And then when Daisy was in the module with Lincoln, there was a panel open with the same bundle of wires Daisy was working on in the dream.

I mean, I get that it was supposed to be a dream, but it didn't really work as one (especially since Daisy was never on the other planet). So I'm with Laddical that it was perhaps meant as a flashforward to an ending that was scrapped, but they kept the scene anyway.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  Carrie Ann on Thu May 19, 2016 12:58 am

I thought it was a dream in the vein of Buffy's occasional prophetic dreams on BtVS. I don't follow the stories closely enough on AoS to know whether that jibes at all with Skye's abilities, but if they just gave her a new one, that wouldn't surprise me at all. OTOH, I also wouldn't be surprised if they never address it again.
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Post  Bad Username on Mon May 23, 2016 6:11 am

I just finished season 2 of Agents of SHIELD, and now I'm shaking my fists in the air screaming "WHEDOOOOOOOOONN!!!"

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  bookworm on Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:23 pm

Has anyone started watching Legion? I love the aesthetic, and the acting is on point. I can't wait to see how the series unfolds. I have to give a hand to Dan Stevens. His transformation into David is amazing considering the other roles I've seen him in.
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Post  Carrie Ann on Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:32 am

We're watching it too! It's really refreshing to watch a show with such a strong visual style that isn't *only* style, if that makes sense. I really enjoy it even if I don't always follow what's going on, and I really like the chemistry between Dan Stevens and Rachel Keller. Plus it's creepy as hell.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Post  bookworm on Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:03 pm

I agree with everything! It is very creepy and confusing, which I guess would make sense for a show which spends a lot of time involved with mental illness. Jean Smart's husbands screams "Hi I'm Professor X," but other than that it is nice that it is a show about mutants that isn't blatantly X-Men heavy.
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