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Post  Melk on Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:56 pm

The exhaustive, detailed analysis going on over on Tumblr comparing Cumberbatch's and Pine's fingers and thumbs to *the* hand at the end of the Japanese trailer is pretty funny. Who knew you could get so much mileage out of debating who has the wonkiest pinky finger?

Not that I'm in much of a position to poke fun, because I totally read it all.
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Post  laddical on Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:03 pm

Oh, man. I'm so glad JJ Abrams took so long to tell us that Paddy Joe Crumbbum is playing
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John Harrison.
I mean really - that's how you build up buzz for a movie. If by "build up buzz" you mean "troll your fanbase".
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Post  RiverThames on Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:07 pm

There's a scene in London and his name is
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John Harrison
?!?!!?

Oh my god, this movie is secretly about
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The Longitude Problem
. It must be.
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Post  laddical on Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:09 pm

You are, as ever, a fount of wonderful theories.
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Post  Cutebutpsycho on Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:19 pm

So who is this dude that he's supposed to be playing? The King Tribble?
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Post  laddical on Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:20 pm

And now and for all time whenever I talk about this character, it will be as
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John Harrison, Tribble King.
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Post  Cutebutpsycho on Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:23 pm

You mean:

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John Harrison, Tribble King of Chicago.
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Post  RiverThames on Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:28 pm

Cutebutpsycho wrote:You mean:

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John Harrison, Tribble King of Chicago.

No more calls, ladies and gentlemen. We have our winner.
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Post  QueenSix on Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:25 pm

Alice Eve is playing
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Carol Marcus.

Cue the speculation that the movie is
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about Kahn after all.

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Post  RiverThames on Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:39 am

Of course, they're also being cagey about who Peter Weller is playing.

The thing is, Peter Weller has played a character in Trek before. In fact, a character whose continuity is not wiped out, since he was on Enterprise.

Is it possible Weller is playing
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Paxton again, with an anti-alien plot of some sort? And thus Cumberbatch is part of Terra Prime? Or is Col. Green?

Of course, this is advanced Trek Nerdity. Perhaps too much for the average audience.
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Post  laddical on Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:23 am

I didn't even realize Peter Weller was even in this. And while I wasn't a fan of "Terra Prime" and the Trip/T'Pol baby-angst, I would think it absolutely marvelous if the "Earth First" movement was referenced here. Even if it's just a throw-away line like the reference to Admiral Archer's beagle.

Examples for why crowd-sourced information sites might not be a bright idea. I wonder if there's been an editing war between people correcting the info to read "John Harrison" and others who keep changing it back to "Khan".

Honestly, this whole "playing coy" bit is becoming more and more aggravating the more I think about it. Which means I should probably stop thinking about it. But this is a new Trek movie and I feel like I should be allowed to get excited without having that excitement spoiled by these stupid games that are either JJ trying to protect a major secret and feeling it's okay to let the fanbase burn to protect it or JJ being a troll. Either way, I'm beginning to think I'm going to have to just ignore anything about this movie until it comes out because at this point the aggravation - at JJ, at wild mass guessing, at pretty much everything that isn't RiverThames awesome theories - is just souring me on it.
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Post  Miss Moneypenny on Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:46 am

This was never here (and probably won't be for much longer, so go now!)
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Post  Melk on Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:25 am

Miss Moneypenny wrote:This was never here (and probably won't be for much longer, so go now!)

The thing that does not exist is so much perfection.
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Post  Escape on Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:49 am

Melk wrote:
Miss Moneypenny wrote:This was never here (and probably won't be for much longer, so go now!)

The thing that does not exist is so much perfection.

Very much so. I need the rest of the thing that doesn't exist to be out NOW.
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Post  Wildog27 on Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:18 pm

And we've got a Full-length trailer.

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Post  laddical on Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:26 pm

That was really the only good thing about The Hobbit in IMAX for me.

It does make me sad, though, that we're only going to get a handful of adventures from this cast. I'd watch the hell out of them on TV.

I kind of love the altruistic hypocrisy running through the whole notion of that scene. They keep mentioning the Prime Directive without ever mentioning that the "natural course of development" for the planet is to let the freaking volcano blow and kill anything it kills. That sort of sums up the whole experience of the Prime Directive in the TV shows.
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Post  Miss Moneypenny on Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:29 am

Every trailer I see makes me LESS interested in this movie. I don't care about the villain. I am sick of seeing the same shit blow up. Do the Enterprise crew members get more than one line each in any of the trailers? Is Chekov even IN the movie?

Bah. Get off my lawn, JJ.
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Post  laddical on Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:54 am

JJ, come on down to my lawn. We'll sip cocktails, spin fantastic yarns that don't go anywhere, and make lens flares with prisms and magnifying glasses.

I'm still annoyed with him for all the "John Harrison" crap, but this trailer helped with that a bit. I'm *hoping* that all the secrecy over Harrison's identity is just bungled marketing, and from the look of that trailer I think it's safe to say that whoever Harrison is and whatever his vendetta is, it's not going to be related to Khan or any other simple recycling of a previous story.

I do wonder about the shot of Carol Marcus in her underwear, though. She looks nice, but that seemed so completely random and unnecessary.
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Post  Kiran on Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:59 am

I loved that trailer.

Yeah that shot was weird, I wonder if it makes sense in context though.
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Post  Binky on Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:03 pm

I agree on the trailers, uh, not being on my lawn.

I loved the first Star Trek (to my complete shock), so hopefully this one has actual Star Trek in it somewhere underneath that generic action movie starring Chris Pine and Ferretface.
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Post  laddical on Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:05 pm

Ha. Watching it a second time, I noticed they have a shot of Harrison being escorted down a hall by armed security. All of them red shirts. So much carnage in the making.

Also noticed that the uniforms worn by the Admiralty look an awful lot like Kirk's uniform in The Motion Picture. A nice touch, if a bit anachronistic.
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Post  blixie on Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:06 pm

I'm still excited! I thought they confirmed Slaptyback Cumberbund as Kahn? He's obviously NOT Kahn in the particulars, but in the basics he still seems awfully Kahn-esque. I can believe Kirk is a big enough asshole to have had multiple vendettas in his lifetime, but whatevs I really loved JJ's take on the Trek universe and characters.

OOH also no body told me Buckaroo Bonzai/Robocop had a role in this!

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Post  Poubelle on Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:35 am

Based on the voice, I'm assuming his character is related to Picard. Pre-Locutus? I don't think I've seen Cumberbatch in anything else where he sounded just like Patrick Stewart.
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Post  laddical on Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:33 am

RiverThames has posited the exact same thought. If John Harrison is some kind of Nero-Screwed-Timeline evil Picard come back from the future to right some even more evil wrong wrought by this less exploration-based Starfleet - as overwrought and complicated as that statement is, I may die from squee.
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Post  Poubelle on Fri Mar 22, 2013 4:53 am

It's not like it'll be the first summer action movie with a storyline that complex/whacked. I'd enjoy it. Though at this point as long as he's anyone other that Khan, I'll be happy. (That just seems like a bad idea for so, so many reasons.)
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