This Business of Show

James Franco Defends Shia.

Um, yeah.

bookworm wrote:James Franco Defends Shia.

Um, yeah.

Mr. LaBeouf has been acting since he was a child, and often an actor’s need to tear down the public creation that constrains him occurs during the transition from young man to adult. I think Mr. LaBeouf’s project, if it is a project, is a worthy one. I just hope that he is careful not to use up all the good will he has gained as an actor in order to show us that he is an artist.

Psst, Mr Franco - when you plagiarise the works of other artists, it's not art. Or it may be art, but it's not yours. Hence, he is not an artist.

Does anyone really buy Shia's attempt to pretend his plagiarism was part of some kind of 'performance art' project? He got caught plagiarizing, was humiliated, and because he is apparently a crazy person decided that the thing to do was start plagiarizing literally everything he said/tweeted/wrote on his paper bag mask, and pretend that that had been the plan all along.

Melk wrote:Does anyone really buy Shia's attempt to pretend his plagiarism was part of some kind of 'performance art' project? He got caught plagiarizing, was humiliated, and because he is apparently a crazy person decided that the thing to do was start plagiarizing literally everything he said/tweeted/wrote on his paper bag mask, and pretend that that had been the plan all along.

So basically it's the famous person equivalent of "It's a social experiment"?

nazlan wrote:

So basically it's the famous person equivalent of "It's a social experiment"?

Funny how he didn't write a defensive piece for Lindsay Lohan when she was stealing everything in sight or Britney Spears when she shaved her head and got committed or Charlie Sheen when he was "winning".

Well neither Lindsay nor Charlie nor Britney claimed they were doing any of those things for art's sake.

David Letterman to retire in 2015.

Let the games begin.

Eris Rising wrote:David Letterman to retire in 2015.

Let the games begin.

You know, when I saw Drew Carey subbing for Craig Ferguson the other night, I turned to my husband and said "I bet he's auditioning for Ferguson's job for when Ferguson goes for Letterman's job when he retires." I'm still not sure Ferguson -- whom I LOVE -- is the right fit for the 11:30 slot but I do think the Carey would be terrific in Ferguson's slot.

mialoubug wrote:

Eris Rising wrote:David Letterman to retire in 2015.

Let the games begin.

You know, when I saw Drew Carey subbing for Craig Ferguson the other night, I turned to my husband and said "I bet he's auditioning for Ferguson's job for when Ferguson goes for Letterman's job when he retires."   I'm still not sure Ferguson -- whom I LOVE -- is the right fit for the 11:30 slot but I do think the Carey would be terrific in Ferguson's slot.  

Ferguson has outright stated that he has absolutely no desire whatsoever to move to the earlier slot, as he feels that he has more creative freedom where he is right now. I suspect that for form's sake, he's considered in the running, but will also turn it down outright in exchange for a salary bump and being left alone for however long he has the show.

I heard he has the right of first refusal, so CBS has to offer it to him contractually before they can offer it to anyone else. Like you said, he may use that as leverage for a pay bump if he doesn't want the earlier slot.

vwlphb wrote:I heard he has the right of first refusal, so CBS has to offer it to him contractually before they can offer it to anyone else. Like you said, he may use that as leverage for a pay bump if he doesn't want the earlier slot.

I certainly would. Something for me, for the writers, for the producer and director, and for Geoff's puppeteer. He has a sweet gig where he doesn't have to worry about living up to anyone else's expectations, and can continue to deconstruct the talk show format for as long as he wants to. So who else is in the running? Stewart, but speaking of good gigs, he has about as prestigious a one as he's going to get right where he is. Colbert is more of an actor than he is a talk show host, I suspect. Chelsea Handler just walked away from E!, but I'm having a hard time picturing that.

I actually wonder if he would want to do it because not only is he allowed a lot of freedom he is also allowed to pretape a ton of shows so that he can continue to tour and while Dave pretapes his Friday shows it's a lot less than Craig pretapes and I think that CBS would want its 11:30 show to be more timely.

I was wondering how long Dave would keep at it after he outlived Leno.

Conan's TBS contract is up in 2015.

The Dude wrote:

Conan's TBS contract is up in 2015.

Interesting...

I agree that Ferguson will not want the job. I really don't know who they'll try. I actually don't think Conan will leave TBS.

That said, I can't remember the last time I watched someone who wasn't Stewart/Colbert.

I am glad that, unlike NBC, CBS is giving Dave the freedom to decide when he wants to go and letting him go out on his own terms. And I hope, like his idol Johnny Carson, he'll get one sweet sendoff next year. I'll miss him, but I respect that he wants to bow out now. Always leave 'em wanting more!

maxell131313 wrote:I am glad that, unlike NBC, CBS is giving Dave the freedom to decide when he wants to go and letting him go out on his own terms.  And I hope, like his idol Johnny Carson, he'll get one sweet sendoff next year.  I'll miss him, but I respect that he wants to bow out now.  Always leave 'em wanting more!

I suspect that Leno burned some bridges at NBC.  He pulled in ratings, but it seems that nobody wanted to deal with him.  It was pretty soon after Kimmel locked up 11:30, and Jay didn't have another major network to run to, that they made the serious moves towards getting him out of the door.  In a way, in the face of shifting demographics, they had to get him out while he was on top, and there was a chance of retaining or acquiring some younger viewers.

The Dude wrote:I was wondering how long Dave would keep at it after he outlived Leno.

Conan's TBS contract is up in 2015.

I do recall saying to friends a while back that once Leno was securely out that door (and between Kimmel locking down ABC and Fallon's spectacular ratings, he's as securely out as it gets), the chances for Letterman to move on had significantly increased. It wasn't a deciding factor, I'm sure, but I'm sure that sheer satisfaction at having outlived the competition, ratings be damned, may have played a part.

He is also worshipped by the current generation of late night hosts. What Johnny was to Jay and him, he is to them. Leno doesn't have that and I always thought that despite the fact that post Hugh Grant he won the ratings, that always stuck in Leno's craw. Along with how actual show aside, Carson always considered Letterman his successor.

I think Jimmy Kimmel may want it. He WORSHIPS Letterman.

Yes he does. I don't know how long Kimmel's contract runs with ABC, but I could definitely see him wanting to step into his idol's shoes.

mialoubug wrote:

Eris Rising wrote:David Letterman to retire in 2015.

Let the games begin.

You know, when I saw Drew Carey subbing for Craig Ferguson the other night, I turned to my husband and said "I bet he's auditioning for Ferguson's job for when Ferguson goes for Letterman's job when he retires."   I'm still not sure Ferguson -- whom I LOVE -- is the right fit for the 11:30 slot but I do think the Carey would be terrific in Ferguson's slot.  

That was an April Fool's Day prank - Craig Ferguson hosted The Price is Right, and Drew Cary hosted Craig's show.

They're saying Colbert is the frontrunner right now.

As much as I adore him, it's sort of strange in that I don't think I could at all predict just how he'd run the show. We know so little of him out of character. Which could make it a smart choice. He brings along a loyal, sizeable fanbase, but he'd also be something fresh and new, despite his years and years of on-air duties.

swsa wrote:They're saying Colbert is the frontrunner right now.

As much as I adore him, it's sort of strange in that I don't think I could at all predict just how he'd run the show. We know so little of him out of character. Which could make it a smart choice. He brings along a loyal, sizeable fanbase, but he'd also be something fresh and new, despite his years and years of on-air duties.

Like I said elsewhere, he strikes me as more of an actor than a talk show host, whereas in retrospect, Jimmy Fallon was a talk show host killing time as an actor.

I want to see Louis C.K. get an audition for it, to piss off Jerry Seinfeld.

Putli Bai wrote:

mialoubug wrote:

Eris Rising wrote:David Letterman to retire in 2015.

Let the games begin.

You know, when I saw Drew Carey subbing for Craig Ferguson the other night, I turned to my husband and said "I bet he's auditioning for Ferguson's job for when Ferguson goes for Letterman's job when he retires."   I'm still not sure Ferguson -- whom I LOVE -- is the right fit for the 11:30 slot but I do think the Carey would be terrific in Ferguson's slot.  

That was an April Fool's Day prank - Craig Ferguson hosted The Price is Right, and Drew Cary hosted Craig's show.

That makes a lot more sense! Thanks, I hadn't heard that.

punkysdilemma wrote:I want to see Louis C.K. get an audition for it, to piss off Jerry Seinfeld.  

Aren't they friends? I'm just going by their episode of Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, which was one of the best ones.